Monday, 12 November 2012

Life Off the Grid 41 - July 24, 2012

Life Off the Grid 41 – July 24, 2012

8:30 AM

Pot of millet simmering for breakfast. Very hungry.

9:00 AM

Munching on millet. Thinking about painting.

2:20 PM

I am in an advanced state of Arrrrrgh! My long extendible handle for the paint roller broke, right where the threads screw into the roller handle. I was so close to done the 1st coat of rolling on paint. I am going to have to find some duct tape. I have about 4 square feet left to do. Not impressed. And too surly to do anymore on this today.

3:15 PM

OK, I have driven the quad. Up our drive to the road. And back again. Reaching heart-pounding speeds of 9 or 10 kms/h. It does not drive like the tractor back in Alberta. The slightest touch on the throttle and it leaps. The only thing responsive on this beast is the accelerator. It steers like a drunken ox. If you missed earlier discussions of the quad, it is a Can-am 2012 Outlander 800X. It's a big machine. It's also a scary machine. Ok. I've done my one terrifying thing for today.

I will have to keep doing it. Driving it again and again, until the fear is all squashed down. But not today.

I'm going to make some split pea soup. Soon.

Maybe I'll just sit and read for awhile. I am very tired.

6:15 PM

1/2 cup split green peas, 1 cup water. Bring to a boil.

Add a broth cube (I use Healthy Harvest low sodium vegetable bouillon), cover and reduce heat or shut it off. I turned off the heat because the pot I am using is large and the quantity I am cooking is small.

8:30 PM

Went down to play with the dogs while the peas soften. After a bit I could hear my cell phone in the window of the cabana playing the song that indicates Jeff is sending me a text. So I went and checked. The next couple of hours were spent texting with Jeff and throwing balls for the dogs. It's weird. There are these windows when the signal is good. And then lots of times when I can't find signal anywhere.
This evening I was even able to send him photos of the new paint job.

I had this half a baked potato left over in the fridge, so I chopped it up (took the skin off first).

And put it in the soup.

Put the heat back on. There was a bit of basil pesto still on the potato. More flavour. Nothing wasted. Sadly, I don't have any other interesting leftovers to put in the soup. Except some crumbs from a package of Rhythm Superfoods Bombay Curry Kale chips. It's all natural, organic, no preservatives. You can add this stuff and it's just like adding some kale to your soup. And curry flavour. Yummy.

I added some water because it was beginning to stick. Stir often. Add little bits of water as needed so it doesn't stick. When the peas are really soft, soup's ready!

I am going to prep the other package of prawns, just like I did before (because it tasted so good). And I'm going to soak some more mung beans. Then supper tomorrow will be really easy.

I may wind up dashing to Kenora early tomorrow. Get a new extender and some really fuzzy rollers. Chalet board is brutal to paint. For some reason, someone saw fit to put ridges every so often in the boards. It's all well and good if you are repainting the same colour, but now I have lines where the roller didn't reach that are still dark brown and unless I get a really fuzzy roller, I'm going to have paint them all with a paint brush. And that just isn't going to happen.

Jeff pointed out that it's a $50 trip to Kenora (gas) and I should make it worthwhile. I guess I could also get all the additional electrical things we need (junction boxes, switches, outlets, wire, etc), and samplers of potential paint colours for the deck. That will save me some time in Winnipeg.

9:30 PM

Alright. Prawns marinading, mung beans soaking, split pea/potato/kale soup all set to go tomorrow. Which is good. I think tomorrow will be a heavy day. I will appreciate having easy food that will be ready quick.

I think it must be time to go and lie down and read. And then sleep.

Life Off the Grid 40 - July 23, 2012

Life Off the Grid 40 – July 23, 2012


The roofers were here! I was beginning to think them mythical. Even better... they say they could build a quad path. I just want it to happen, without Jeff and me spending days and days working brutally hard, sweltering in the heat and getting bitten by bugs and scratched by branches. Is that wrong?

I want to be able to bring propane down by quad. That would be sweet. I am usually very frugal, but sometimes it just makes sense to throw money at a problem to make it go away.
2:40 PM

Been painting. Think I've had a bit too much sun. Again. Drinking lots of water, but it's 32C in the shade. Can't do any more. So, what job to tackle next? Sorting tools? I really have to get some practice on the quad. Tearing up the old boat rails in the boathouse? Sigh. It's hot. I just want to go for a swim. Also, Jeff wants me to go up the tall ladder to roof height and see if I get signal on my phone. One of the roof guys said he had 2 bars of service when he was on the roof. I guess maybe that's something I can do. Terrifying as it is.

3:00 PM

Ok. Did the roof thing. Feel all jangly inside. I didn't used to be afraid of heights. One place we lived when Heather was little, I used to climb up a tree next to the house and sit on the roof and read when she was having a nap. I revelled in being up high, above the world. And I'm not thinking scary things, not consciously. But I get up a ladder like that now and my legs have a mind of their own, shaking violently in spite of my efforts to calm them.

I have had some scary incidents. The leg shaking thing began the very first time I skied downhill at an almost real ski hill. Ok, Holiday Mountain in Manitoba, but before that I had only skied at a sort of deep ditch on the outskirts of Winnipeg. It was early in the day. The trails had not all been groomed and somehow Jeff and I wound up at the top of a black run, which was all ice. Now, I have skied a lot since then, but I am still pretty proud to navigate the blue runs at Lake Louise and Sunshine. I am not a black diamond girl. And this was years ago. I was just starting out. I started down, but quickly lost control and felt myself going much faster than I wanted to. Instinctively, I tucked down, making myself closer to the ground and as small as possible. This, as those of you who ski know, is not the right thing to do. Jeff, standing helplessly at the top of the run watching, was wondering 1) what the hell I was doing and 2) what he would tell the kids when he came home with their mother in a body bag. I was not adept at turning at this point. Fortunately, where the path curved there was brush rather than trees. I crashed and, mercifully, came to a stop. I was unhurt, physically. However, the terror I felt careening out of control seemed to transfer to my legs.

Jeff guided me down the rest of the way slowly, and I went and had a hot chocolate, confident I would stop shaking soon. And I did. Until the next time I was in line for the chair lift. Then I almost fell down, my legs were shaking so hard. I made myself go up again and again, carefully sticking to the easy runs. And it got better. My confidence was shaken again, later in the day, when the tip of one ski somehow got caught as I was trying to dismount from the chair lift. I face-planted. Which was more embarrassing then anything else.

As I said, I have skied a lot since then. I did have a major melt-down at one point at Lake Louise where the slope just looked too steep for a human being to get down without being on their belly. I can do that run now. I am not as good a skier as my husband and my son, not even close. They spend their ski days looking for the fastest, most challenging runs they can find. I am quite content with the challenge of the green and blue runs. I can now do black runs at Manitoba ski hills, like Assissippi, but they are like an easy blue run in the mountains. If Jeff and I ski “together” it means he is off at Goat's Head or Delirium Dive and I'm doing my thing and we meet for lunch and at the end of the day.

But I fought past the panic and fear to do this and now I can do it. I can ski and not be in a cold trembling sweat. And yet, the panic seems to be manifesting in all kinds of awkward places involving heights. Up a ladder trying to change a light bulb in our house in Alberta (seriously, cathedral ceilings are over-rated, especially when you are the one who has to reach the light fixtures way up there), or painting up a ladder... Very annoying.

3:30 PM

Ok. I have decided. I have done one really scary thing today and that is good enough. No cell signal at roof height, by the way. I will burn my kitchen garbage, because it's a nice, still day. And then I will figure out what to do next.



5:00 PM

Garbage burned. One bag of burnable garbage in 12 days. And one bag of carry-out garbage. Also, I went and struggled with the rails in the boathouse. I felt like a fly trying to move a building. Glue and long nails. No amount of prying with the pry-bar could shift them even a little. I am not big enough. Frustrating!

I am terribly sweaty now. The dogs have been very patient all day with me working. I suspect some playing in the lake is owed to them. I can't say what a relief it is to know the roof is going to be taken care of without Jeff or me having to go up there. That would be at least 4 days of his stay of 8 days, including travel days (and never mind the days it would take me to carry all those packages of shingles down!). Add in putting the solar panels on the roof and doing wiring, there is precious little time left for him to relax. And that's no good at all. Especially if he is adamant about building that quad path. That's a lot of work. I would rather outsource it. There is pride in building something yourself. But there is also something to be said for just having it and being able to use it. It could be a couple of years before we could get it finished and workable. I say, let the guys who know what they are doing set it up. They will do it much faster and it will probably be better than what we would wind up with.

7:10 PM

The dogs and I have been playing in the water for the past couple of hours. Guinness was more energetic and did more swimming that he has for a long time. Good. I need him tired because his medication (prednisone) has really kicked in and he is drinking a LOT of water. And so he is getting me up in the night so he can pee. I have had awful sleeps for the past week because of standing in mosquito land waiting for him to come back from extensive peeing adventures. And then when I come in I am wide awake, plus a bunch of mosquitoes come in with us so I am battling them for an hour or more before I can go back to sleep. I am feeling like I did with a baby in the house. Just tired. Horribly, deeply tired all the time.
I think I'm hungry. It's tiring, tiring out the dogs. I swam too. A lot. Washed my hair, which is a joy. A clean scalp is a wonderful thing. Living without benefit of hot running water, you really start to appreciate getting to wash your hair.

Fresh food is running very low. It's only Monday, so I have until Friday to cope with living on dried grains. I could drive to Kenora, and I might. But I don't really want to. It seems a dreadful waste of time and gas, since I am going to Winnipeg on Friday. There is no fresh food at Wilson's, but I suppose if I get really sick of what I have I could go there for a can of beans or something. Ugh. If they had yoghurt and fresh veggies I would be set. I realize now, weekly trips to Kenora were centred around getting access to communication with the outside world. Of course, there was always stuff that was needed: groceries, lumber, paint, whatever. But getting news from the family was always really an important part and I would go in once a week even if I wasn't getting desperately low on food. Now I have some sporadic cell access from here... Fewer trips to town I think.

The dogs are sacked out.

In Winnipeg I will stock up again on organic foods. And whatever Katherine and Ty want to eat. Alas, they are not tolerant of my mostly vegan, whole grains and vegetable diet. They will want to eat meat. And Kraft dinner. And chips. And grilled cheese sandwiches and Ramen noodles.

8:45 PM
Quinoa cooking for dinner. Appealing food stocks are growing low. Very hungry now, so this will do.

I hope Guinness will sleep tonight. Just went out and played ball with them for another 20 minutes. Guinness is lying on the deck. Too hot to come in, too bothered by bugs to sleep out there. Ah, maybe he has had enough with the bugs... In he comes.
I'm so tired. And hungry. And tired...

9:00 PM

Dinner is cooked. But too hot to eat. Aaaarrrrgh. HUNGRY!

9:15 Pm

Food finally cooled enough to eat. Hurray!
9:25 PM

Food was so good. Hunger is an amazing seasoning.

Time to go read and text.

Wednesday, 31 October 2012

Live blog - Bingham Crossing Public Hearing October 30, 2012

Ok, I promise I will post the rest of the summer's "Life Off the Grid" blogs soon. Rural Municipality politics seized me pretty much the moment my truck rolled into the driveway.  I must now commandeer the blog in order to post this as it is too long to post on Face Book...

    This is my live-blog from the Bingham Public Hearing on Tuesday, October 30, 2012, for anyone who was not there, is not on Twitter, or would like to refresh their memory... It is not complete and there is occasional paraphrasing when people spoke too quickly, but it has the gist of it. There should be a transcript available of the entire taped proceedings eventually, but for tomorrow, perhaps this will do... Sorry for the occasional editorial observation – couldn't help myself.
  • They should be starting soon #no2bing
  • Now hearing motion to alternate speakers & other motions for hearing format #no2bing
  • Looks like a good turn-out, but if you are planning to come out, DO! Don't know how many for/against #no2bing
  • Rolly doing the instructions about how to speak to council (address chair, etc) #no2bing
  • Motion was passed, btw #no2bing
  • Counsillor Solberg asks if council decision is based only on public input. Rolly says no
  • Staff guy speaking on the proposal #no2bing
  • Staff guy describing the Direct Control bylaw #no2bing
  • 270,000 sq feet in Phase 1, but floor space 360,000 sq feet #no2bing
  • Meanwhile, RVC has pulled out all the stops on security - looks like we have riot squad on stand-by #no2bing
  • And we are now standing room only! Keep arriving! Make them get more chairs. #no2bing
  • Lois asks if Council will see master site development plan - yes. Will it be all 3 at once – yes
  • Couns Solberg - resident eligibility re seniors housing - clarify - there are no rules #no2bing
  • Kim asks how many acres are being redesignated - about 80 acres #no2bing
  • 270,000 sq feet commercial space, 360,000 sq feet includes senior centre #no2bing
  • Ron Renaud for Bingham up next #no2bing
  • Renaud has a team with him as usual - wants to talk about public engagement process #no2bing
  • 11 open houses - plan shaped by our neighbours - he's disappointed by what's going on in community #no2bing
  • He is now attacking the social media and anyone who objects to Bingham #no2bing
  • "Disruptive campaign of misinformation..." #no2bing
  • Council, look past this barrage of half-truths...” #no2bing
  • Urban Systems guy up now #no2bing
  • Talking about sustainable tax base founded on development #no2bing
  • Says N springbank ASP calls for commercialization of Hwy 1 corridor #no2bing
  • Says seniors housing not an add on - always part of plan #no2bing
  • New off ramp, 3 round abouts, improve rr33 and 250, direct traffic away from residential #no2bing
  • Says 22 acres of commercial and 10 acres of seniors housing to be developed first #no2bing
  • Lifestyle zone - plazas, squares, not only for res of SB, for region #no2bing
  • Highway buffer zone - more significant retail in this area #no2bing
  • Talking about how they have reached out to community #no2bing
  • Talking about the phone survey, say more support for than opposition #no2bing
  • Themes from letters - county debt - BC will bring net benefit #no2bing
  • BC to pay for infrastructure #no2bing
  • Scale of project - balance of area for roadways #no2bing
  • Cost of seniors housing in line with others in area #no2bing
  • Water currently servicing Edge School - pipes in the ground #no2bing
  • Rural lifestyle - in the eye of the beholder - says we are not rural #no2bing
  • Rolly has called a 5 minute break #no2bing
  • And they are back - questions to the applicant - net cost benefit? Thomas consultants did report #no2bing
  • Says height max is 12 metres (39 feet - 3 stories) -don't we need a ladder truck? #no2bing
  • Highway edge has car dealership listed... #no2bing
  • No tenants lined up - just a range of possibles, incl car dealership #no2bing
  • How can you have an off ramp but no on-ramp? #no2bing
  • No need to build new ramps for opening day in 2015, or in 20 years time #no2bing
  • Replacing interchanges with roundabouts #no2bing
  • New vehicles during peak hrs 400 to 450 in AM, 1000 in PM - 9K - 10K car trips per day - total 15K per day at 1st phase #no2bing
  • Mkt study - why local & regional retail? Incl SB & hwy traffic - total mkt of 25,000 customers #no2bing
  • No max sq footage on any buildings - determined for master site plan #no2bing
  • What happens 1st? Ramp, roundabouts, change road elevation, median on 250 #no2bing
  • When start? Concurrent with phase 1 #no2bing
  • Staging cell A, B, C in phase 1? Intend to build all at once #no2bing
  • Solberg asks if road paid for by developer - yes
  • What is tax benefit? Approx $600 K - seniors not counted in original model #no2bing
  • Ratio buildings vs open space? Needs to get back to that #no2bing
  • How many surveyed? Outcomes? #no2bing
  • Survey Oct 10 - 14, random digit dial, set quotas based on age, etc. Total sample 315 - whole county - 5% reliability
  • 1% mentioned development unprompted, 37% across county have heard of it #no2bing
  • 28% support across county, divided immediate neighbourhood #no2bing
  • Need retail - in favour, opposed - not needed, not rural, bad location #no2bing
  • Why survey whole county? BC chose #no2bing
  • 97 Springbankers were surveyed. #no2bing
  • Back to traffic - about 10,000 new vehicles per day. Won't give current traffic volumes... #no2bing
  • Rolly trying to get people to shut up - lots of indignant whispering #no2bing
  • Who pays for road upgrades? BC says with roundabouts roads will be good as is for this phase - phase 2 not on table today #no2bing
  • Why do we have different totals? $106M says county, $172M says province. Who pays? #no2bing
  • Background traffic levels - 2015 adjusted background est is 6K - 7K per day. W/ BC 14K - 15K per day #no2bing
  • Why won't they say what traffic level is now? #no2bing
  • Road work to be done when development ready to open #no2bing
  • RVC has a levy to finance future interchange. Confusing! One minute BC pays, next it is RV acreage levy #no2bing
  • Say residents benefiting would pay levy #no2bing
  • Layout of cell C - 270K sq feet retail? County specified number of parking spaces #no2bing
  • Will there be a parkade? At this point it's surface parking #no2bing
  • Roundabout will use existing right of way #no2bing
  • Storm water will drain to Elbow. Same drainage as now b/c of drainage control they say #no2bing
  • No other phase on the table now. #no2bing
  • Won't most of additional 10K traffic be coming from south? What about those roads? #no2bing
  • Margaret says retail study / transportation study numbers don't line up #no2bing
  • Existing traffic on RR33 is 5K - 6K #no2bing
  • Margaret addresses acreage levy - what happens if interchange needed before $ is raised? #no2bing
  • BC will pay phase 1 improvements. Urban Systems says they can negotiate with county if phase 2 happens #no2bing
  • Kim- phase 1 - retail/office/potentially private schools, museums, gov't offices etc? Yes #no2bing
  • How many acres will BC be paying levy on? BC defers question #no2bing
  • This phase can stand on its own. (From McLean) - weird question #no2bing
  • Solberg - cell C - how big is a regional grocery - 50K sq feet #no2bing
  • How big is a regional retail? 15K sq feet, wouldn't call it big box #no2bing
  • Superstore 150K sq feet #no2bing
  • Margaret - car lot doesn't fit. BC says no intent to put in a car dealership #no2bing
  • Any berms? Berming & screening parking areas - people here don't like using underground parking #no2bing
  • McLean - how big is Sunterra? 15K to 30K. Food stores change format - talks about Whole Foods from US #no2bing
  • Kim - variance 25% why? - what we negotiated with RVC staff #no2bing
  • Taking a break, then public input. Birol from Harmony up first #no2bing
  • They're back. Rolly is saying they will adjourn around 8 PM and move the rest to Thursday #no2bing
  • Birol is up. Bordeaux Development. In favour. Springbank is phenomenal. Know most of people. Never seen so much slander.. #no2bing
  • Never seen so much fear-mongering. So much misinformation. What is divisive is the messaging out there #no2bing
  • Ray Norton (?) Nearby stakeholder - against BC - we have strong community now. Not wanted. Belongs in Calgary. #no2bing
  • Seniors housing is window dressing and too expensive. Community built seniors place like Bragg creek better #no2bing
  • Developer should pay for all roadwork. If councillor has received $ from developer should reccuse! #no2bing
  • Huge applause when he finished #no2bing
  • Solberg - is there a group now in Springbank working on srs housing #no2bing
  • He doesn't know of any group now. #no2bing
  • Dr. David Challuk - left a video - in favour
  • When everyone applauded Rolly threatened to throw us out. Gee, I thought it was OUR building... #no2bing
  • Talking about elderly being surrounded by pastoral setting - good for the soul. #no2bing
  • The guy with the video is from Cochrane #no2bing
  • Nancy Desai - opposed - size and scope of project - lack of infrastructure plans. Water - noticeable increase in water problems #no2bing
  • Basement flooding, road erosion. Large paved areas mean run off and water will flow to the Bow River #no2bing
  • Why vote no? Lack of in-house analysis on water, traffic etc.#no2bing
  • Bit of discussion over whether they can accept video #no2bing
  • Another video from an against guy. They sure aren't having to hang about... #no2bing
  • This guy is from Elbow Valley. Says no amenities close by. Isn't Aspen closer to Elbow Valley than Bingham site, or Westhills? #no2bing
  • Margaret is now asking questions of the video
  • Cindy - opposed. We did this in 2010, why are we here again? We don't need a drive-through or an Earls #no2bing
  • Supports seniors housing but it doesn't need a mall #no2bing
  • Used to have housing on plan. Houses gone, commercial replaces #no2bing
  • Food services, esp. grocery store, require multiple big trucks every day #no2bing
  • Motion to go past 5 - passed #no2bing
  • How do we limit how much build-out there will be? #no2bing
  • Maureen - in favour -location - ideal for seniors and local shopping, other 3 already developed
  • Open space - agriculture is not open space. Also production on 1/4 section is minimal. Hard to farm in this area. #no2bing
  • Agriculture not in top 5 in county plan in Springbank #no2bing
  • Can the community survive this conflict? Just like conflict over Calaway #no2bing
  • Seniors should be able to live ot their lives in Springbank #no2bing
  • Started school in Springbank in 1947 #no2bing
  • Kim asks what Maureen means by "hard to farm in area now" #no2bing
  • Neil - opposed - how can 200 residents be ignored? #no2bing
  • - 8 more videos - they will be held to the end - motion proposed. Solberg queries if that is fair because they may get left to Thurs #no2bing
  • Motion passed #no2bing
  • Cameron - in favour - talking about compliance with bylaws #no2bing
  • Shawn - opposed - council elected to represent us. Traffic overload - compare w/ Elbow Valley teen deaths on hwy 8 #no2bing
  • Doubling traffic on a road where we have 4 schools, doesn't even count Harmony and that traffic #no2bing
  • Why are we deciding this before the County Plan is done? #no2bing
  • Talking about BC getting a foot in the door with "phase 1" #no2bing
  • Talking about seniors #no2bing
  • Solberg says shaping rocky view is just modifying existing county plan #no2bing
  • George - in favour - 5 kids - much smaller development now. We don't have some conveniences like Aspen Landing is Springbank #no2bing
  • Good to include seniors. Happy development will be paying taxes - pays its way - need to seek opps for economic dev. #no2bing
  • He is pres of Lenstar Developments - no wonder he's so eager #no2bing
  • Art and Yvonne - opposed - Old ASP: old does not mean bad, extra traffic has negative effect. #no2bing
  • Concerned about urban sprawl - BC does not enhance the culture of Springbank. Meant to serve Calgary - don't be fooled #no2bing
  • Concerned about emergency services, increased crime, pollution, light pollution, tax increases for solving these issues #no2bing
  • No value added to Springbank at all - disappointing that RVC would entertain this proposal #no2bing
  • What happens if the road upgrades put in by BC is not sufficient? #no2bing
  • Solberg - do you live in N Springbank? Yes #no2bing
  • Guy - in favour - Western securities Ltd - big developer - says development adheres to conceptual plan approved last month #no2bing
  • Talking about Gloria, Kim, Margaret - pointing out how they all came from somewhere else thanks to developers #no2bing
  • Bill - opposed - how will BC impact SB as a whole? Traffic - need to meet peak demand - averages mean nothing #no2bing
  • Summer - Callaway, Winter - hockey at Edge and SPFAS - sig impact on road structures #no2bing
  • Pollution - vehicles idling, blowing garbage, light, noise, poss contamination of water table #no2bing
  • Measure society by how seniors are treated - how is a mall treating seniors well? Can project stand w/o seniors #no2bing
  • How can we know if they will fulfill promises #no2bing
  • Nigel - in favour - love mix of residential / rural but think the development is essential. Likes Cross Iron Mills. #no2bing
  • Even a jail has services, but Springbank doesn't #no2bing
  • Says SCPA survey not confidential...? What? #no2bing
  • Think people who are opposed are wanting backward progress #no2bing
  • Feels BC will give us more services rather than paying less tax #no2bing
  • Says SCPA survey is biased and unscientific #no2bing
  • Rochelle - opposed - Crocus Lane. 1/4 mile from irrigation corner #no2bing
  • Storm water management and waste water - biggest concern is flooding #no2bing
  • Flooding b/c water table too high. Soil does not drain properly. Folks spend $$$$ on flood prevention in area #no2bing
  • Taking a break - again. #no2bing
  • They were trying to fit in people tonight who cannot make it Thursday but there are too many... #no2bing
  • They are going to accept videos from those who cannot make it Thursday that they don't get to today. #no2bing
  • Sherri - CL ranches Ltd. - in favour. Wants to speak from agricultural perspective - disturbance of topsoil makes it bad 4 farm #no2bing
  • Springbank has been positive to farm - deterioration of soil makes Bingham land non-arable. Scraped to build overpass #no2bing
  • Too hard to bring in big farm equipment in Bingham #no2bing
  • Alfalfa viable for 7 years before rotation #no2bing
  • Catherine - hasn't heard of anyone who did phone survey, BC never came to her door or her neighbours - who are they consulting? #no2bing
  • Concerned about wildlife - she's a vet - also conscious choice to not be near shopping #no2bing
  • Resents Mr. Renaud's comments that the community is a bunch of misinformed malcontents #no2bing
  • Blaine - in favour - senior housing - wants a medical facility. Needs services - county sees big picture #no2bing
  • Debra - opposed - character and charm - please listen to western Councillors, they understand our views. #no2bing
  • Jason - in favour - real estate agent - concerns about property values. Market is slipping - acreage concept obsolete #no2bing
  • 140 days to sell a house in Springbank now #no2bing
  • Questions the marketability of the seniors residence as property is too noisy from hwy #no2bing
  • Solberg asks if property values won't go up with amenities nearby - says people want high quality lifestyle #no2bing
  • Margaret - Harmony w/ its bus centre - does it address concerns about services? Council not responsible 4 developers success #no2bing
  • Thinks having services here will cut down traffic to city #no2bing
  • Also thinks seniors res was just something they tacked on - he's not sure it can work #no2bing
  • Kris - opposed - property values going up - offended by opening remarks of the developer - slander, etc. #no2bing
  • We have a meeting place - SPFAS - the developers throw in a seniors place because the community is opposed #no2bing
  • Going to be the height of Edge School - that is a domed hockey rink - how would you get an 80 yo down from there in a fire? #no2bing
  • The developers are not my neighbours. I don't need a Safeway. I don't need a bar. Hwy 2 - don't repeat on Hwy 1 #no2bing
  • Sorry about the break in coverage - it was my turn #no2bing
  • Guy up now in favour from Edge school -says when sewer and other utilities come in it will be easier for all to hook in w/ corner #no2bing
  • Next person - stay at home mom - opposed - feels the in favour people telling her what she should want don't live here #no2bing
  • She says the people who are for it have something to gain and the people opposed actually live here and it's their home #no2bing
  • Leo - in favour - doesn't see any problems with traffic, only problem with water is pressurized line - supports project 100% #no2bing
  • Rolly asks for a motion to adjourn and reconvene on Thursday at 9 AM #no2bing
  • Right now there are about 50 opposed and a few in favour left to speak. #no2bing
  • Now the council is arguing about using the word adjourn... #no2bing
  • They will take people who didn't get to speak, taking videos from those who cannot be here Thurs. And they are adjourned #no2bing