- They should be starting soon
#no2bing - Looks like a good turn-out, but if you are planning to come out, DO! Don't know how many for/against
#no2bing - Counsillor Solberg asks if council decision is based only on public input. Rolly says no
- Meanwhile, RVC has pulled out all the stops on security - looks like we have riot squad on stand-by
#no2bing - Lois asks if Council will see master site development plan - yes. Will it be all 3 at once – yes
- Kim asks how many acres are being redesignated - about 80 acres
#no2bing - 11 open houses - plan shaped by our neighbours - he's disappointed by what's going on in community
#no2bing - New off ramp, 3 round abouts, improve rr33 and 250, direct traffic away from residential
#no2bing - Talking about the phone survey, say more support for than opposition
#no2bing - BC to pay for infrastructure
#no2bing - Water currently servicing Edge School - pipes in the ground
#no2bing - And they are back - questions to the applicant - net cost benefit? Thomas consultants did report
#no2bing - New vehicles during peak hrs 400 to 450 in AM, 1000 in PM - 9K - 10K car trips per day - total 15K per day at 1st phase
#no2bing - Mkt study - why local & regional retail? Incl SB & hwy traffic - total mkt of 25,000 customers
#no2bing - Staging cell A, B, C in phase 1? Intend to build all at once
#no2bing - Solberg asks if road paid for by developer - yes
- How many surveyed? Outcomes?
#no2bing - Survey Oct 10 - 14, random digit dial, set quotas based on age, etc. Total sample 315 - whole county - 5% reliability
- 97 Springbankers were surveyed.
#no2bing - Back to traffic - about 10,000 new vehicles per day. Won't give current traffic volumes...
#no2bing - Who pays for road upgrades? BC says with roundabouts roads will be good as is for this phase - phase 2 not on table today
#no2bing - Background traffic levels - 2015 adjusted background est is 6K - 7K per day. W/ BC 14K - 15K per day
#no2bing - RVC has a levy to finance future interchange. Confusing! One minute BC pays, next it is RV acreage levy
#no2bing - BC will pay phase 1 improvements. Urban Systems says they can negotiate with county if phase 2 happens
#no2bing - Any berms? Berming & screening parking areas - people here don't like using underground parking
#no2bing - McLean - how big is Sunterra? 15K to 30K. Food stores change format - talks about Whole Foods from US
#no2bing - Taking a break, then public input. Birol from Harmony up first
#no2bing - Birol is up. Bordeaux Development. In favour. Springbank is phenomenal. Know most of people. Never seen so much slander..
#no2bing - Never seen so much fear-mongering. So much misinformation. What is divisive is the messaging out there
#no2bing - Ray Norton (?) Nearby stakeholder - against BC - we have strong community now. Not wanted. Belongs in Calgary.
#no2bing - Seniors housing is window dressing and too expensive. Community built seniors place like Bragg creek better
#no2bing - Developer should pay for all roadwork. If councillor has received $ from developer should reccuse!
#no2bing - He doesn't know of any group now.
#no2bing - Dr. David Challuk - left a video - in favour
- When everyone applauded Rolly threatened to throw us out. Gee, I thought it was OUR building...
#no2bing - Nancy Desai - opposed - size and scope of project - lack of infrastructure plans. Water - noticeable increase in water problems
#no2bing - Basement flooding, road erosion. Large paved areas mean run off and water will flow to the Bow River
#no2bing - This guy is from Elbow Valley. Says no amenities close by. Isn't Aspen closer to Elbow Valley than Bingham site, or Westhills?
#no2bing - Margaret is now asking questions of the video
- Cindy - opposed. We did this in 2010, why are we here again? We don't need a drive-through or an Earls
#no2bing - Supports seniors housing but it doesn't need a mall
#no2bing - Food services, esp. grocery store, require multiple big trucks every day
#no2bing - Maureen - in favour -location - ideal for seniors and local shopping, other 3 already developed
- Open space - agriculture is not open space. Also production on 1/4 section is minimal. Hard to farm in this area.
#no2bing - Kim asks what Maureen means by "hard to farm in area now"
#no2bing - - 8 more videos - they will be held to the end - motion proposed. Solberg queries if that is fair because they may get left to Thurs
#no2bing - Motion passed
#no2bing - Shawn - opposed - council elected to represent us. Traffic overload - compare w/ Elbow Valley teen deaths on hwy 8
#no2bing - Doubling traffic on a road where we have 4 schools, doesn't even count Harmony and that traffic
#no2bing - George - in favour - 5 kids - much smaller development now. We don't have some conveniences like Aspen Landing is Springbank
#no2bing - Good to include seniors. Happy development will be paying taxes - pays its way - need to seek opps for economic dev.
#no2bing - Art and Yvonne - opposed - Old ASP: old does not mean bad, extra traffic has negative effect.
#no2bing - Concerned about urban sprawl - BC does not enhance the culture of Springbank. Meant to serve Calgary - don't be fooled
#no2bing - Concerned about emergency services, increased crime, pollution, light pollution, tax increases for solving these issues
#no2bing - Solberg - do you live in N Springbank? Yes
#no2bing - Guy - in favour - Western securities Ltd - big developer - says development adheres to conceptual plan approved last month
#no2bing - Talking about Gloria, Kim, Margaret - pointing out how they all came from somewhere else thanks to developers
#no2bing - Bill - opposed - how will BC impact SB as a whole? Traffic - need to meet peak demand - averages mean nothing
#no2bing - Summer - Callaway, Winter - hockey at Edge and SPFAS - sig impact on road structures
#no2bing - Pollution - vehicles idling, blowing garbage, light, noise, poss contamination of water table
#no2bing - Measure society by how seniors are treated - how is a mall treating seniors well? Can project stand w/o seniors
#no2bing - Nigel - in favour - love mix of residential / rural but think the development is essential. Likes Cross Iron Mills.
#no2bing - Flooding b/c water table too high. Soil does not drain properly. Folks spend $$$$ on flood prevention in area
#no2bing - They were trying to fit in people tonight who cannot make it Thursday but there are too many...
#no2bing - They are going to accept videos from those who cannot make it Thursday that they don't get to today.
#no2bing - Sherri - CL ranches Ltd. - in favour. Wants to speak from agricultural perspective - disturbance of topsoil makes it bad 4 farm
#no2bing - Springbank has been positive to farm - deterioration of soil makes Bingham land non-arable. Scraped to build overpass
#no2bing - Catherine - hasn't heard of anyone who did phone survey, BC never came to her door or her neighbours - who are they consulting?
#no2bing - Blaine - in favour - senior housing - wants a medical facility. Needs services - county sees big picture
#no2bing - Debra - opposed - character and charm - please listen to western Councillors, they understand our views.
#no2bing - Jason - in favour - real estate agent - concerns about property values. Market is slipping - acreage concept obsolete
#no2bing - 140 days to sell a house in Springbank now
#no2bing - Solberg asks if property values won't go up with amenities nearby - says people want high quality lifestyle
#no2bing - Margaret - Harmony w/ its bus centre - does it address concerns about services? Council not responsible 4 developers success
#no2bing - Also thinks seniors res was just something they tacked on - he's not sure it can work
#no2bing - Kris - opposed - property values going up - offended by opening remarks of the developer - slander, etc.
#no2bing - We have a meeting place - SPFAS - the developers throw in a seniors place because the community is opposed
#no2bing - Going to be the height of Edge School - that is a domed hockey rink - how would you get an 80 yo down from there in a fire?
#no2bing - The developers are not my neighbours. I don't need a Safeway. I don't need a bar. Hwy 2 - don't repeat on Hwy 1
#no2bing - Sorry about the break in coverage - it was my turn
#no2bing - Guy up now in favour from Edge school -says when sewer and other utilities come in it will be easier for all to hook in w/ corner
#no2bing - Next person - stay at home mom - opposed - feels the in favour people telling her what she should want don't live here
#no2bing - She says the people who are for it have something to gain and the people opposed actually live here and it's their home
#no2bing - Leo - in favour - doesn't see any problems with traffic, only problem with water is pressurized line - supports project 100%
#no2bing - Rolly asks for a motion to adjourn and reconvene on Thursday at 9 AM
#no2bing - They will take people who didn't get to speak, taking videos from those who cannot be here Thurs. And they are adjourned
#no2bing
This is my live-blog from the Bingham Public Hearing on
Tuesday, October 30, 2012, for anyone who was not there, is not on Twitter, or would
like to refresh their memory... It is not complete and there is
occasional paraphrasing when people spoke too quickly, but it has
the gist of it. There should be a transcript available of the entire
taped proceedings eventually, but for tomorrow, perhaps this will
do... Sorry for the occasional editorial observation – couldn't
help myself.
